Bigots, Patriotics and traitors – Identity crisis?
December 13th, 2010 § 48 Comments
An open letter to self proclaimed Right Wing Fanatics,
Akhilesh Mishra, Swathi Pradeep, Mack, Sukanya Devi, Bharatiya, Deepak, list goes on.
At the outset, I clearly don’t face any identity crisis, but some around seriously face the
crisis though. I’m an Indian, a very patriotic Indian who strongly believes in democracy in its fullest means and robustness. A true Muslim who has stake in national interest as well as religion. I’m not driven by emotions, but sensible approach in anything I deal with.
Some creed of twitterattis were on their toes this after noon. They not only never seemed to be believing in democracy, religion, social harmony, but the other way around. There has been much going around with Radia tapes where Barkha Dutt and Vir Sanghvi are a couple of the journalists from the lushed number of other journalists caught talking to Nira Radia.
Ever since Radia Tapes came (brought) to light, I could observe some self proclaimed Right Wing Fanatics who propounds a Saffron India annihilating all Muslims (According to their legacy, they must be cleaning up the lower clans who’re not even allowed nearby them to sit with or dine with) ranting against Barkha Dutt as if it’s substantiated she poked the national exchequer. They obviously seemed to have some inclined interests by propounding their agenda by tarnishing Ms Dutt who’s projected to be a ‘Pro Congress’ journalist.
I am neither related to Barkha or Vir nor do I know them personally except some twitter conversation. However, we all know that they’re two of golden idols of Indian journalists genre. Both of them are caught in conversation with Nira Radia who’s a PR consultant by profession who apparently seemed to have done PR for some political parties.
There is nothing new journalists carry out information peddling stringing along with the source or through some other means. Nakeeran Gopal would have been alleged to be from Veerappan‘s gang lest, you may find innumerable example of such information peddling carried out by different journalists. I found no evidence or substantivity as to Barkha or Dutt linked to 2G scam, neither these fanatics ever substantiated.
All what I did was to support anyone who’s raked at with no substantive point. Anybody would step in to defend someone who’s made scapegoat with no validation whatsoever especially when he/she is a noble and honorable person. Would Kasab’s advocate also be accused of connection with LeT? Does that make any sense at all to anyone who has a bit of brain and sense left?
Let me put across a different perspective all over again which is deliberately kept off the lime by the media because of its bias.I would appreciate if you could rush through My Twitter.com/ZubairZCS timeline to better understand who’s sensible and who is not. I quite don’t understand really the catch why these self proclaimed (I didn’t allude so) Right Wing Fanatics blatantly and blindly controvert Barkha Dutt if at all she had been Pro Congress as projected by these bigots in 2G scam. They are propounding Barkha’s information peddling a bigger national issue than the gigantic loss to the national exchequer imposed by unscrupulous political (meaning contradicts) leaders who abused their seats. Could that be a reason that the Minister from NDA’s Govt too could be caught? God knows what’s the ulteriority.
For one to be democratic and patriotic, corruption should be disapproved irrespective of the creed/flag/color/party of any bias even though he’s your blood relative. If one preaches on corruption having let the overwhelmingly corrupt CM to continue to hold the chair is as good as a boozer Dad admonishing his children not to drink. The fact relieves my agony that majority of the population is sensible and wise.
You’re against the democratic vision of our great nation. India belong to Indians, neither Muslims alone nor Hindus or any other creed.
Terrorism of any kind is objurgated irrespective of the color or creed of the terrorist. It’s doubtlessly a social menace. Being a true Muslim who’s expected to be patriotic according to the testament would proclaim that any terror done in some Arabic terms are menace and deserve to justification. Islam teaches that one who kills a person without justification is like killed the humanity. 
If one refers to the history of Indian Independence movement, erudite Indian Muslims had a pivotal role in the Independence motion unlike the RSS who killed the peace advocate Gandhiji. Islam propounds peace, so do other religions too. One should be sensible enough to validate a religion off its teachings, not looking at its ill-learned followers. I would humbly like to call up on the self proclaimed Right Wing Fanatics to study Hinduism from its testaments – Erigveda, Yejurveda and Samaveda (Since apologies if I have spelt it wrongly) before splashing the venom to discord the communal accord.
A falsity would not become truth if majority support the false. Day would not become night if majority claims otherwise. I have very sincere, intimate and treasured non Muslim friends. I don’t see a non Muslim as an enemy though very small minority are anti-Islam (more of anti-Muslim). Count on me being a true Muslim, I would be the forerunner to condemn any terror committed by a Arabic named person. I (true Islam) condemn the hand choppers and bombers to kills innocents. Islam is the only religion that taught the war etiquette very explicitly. Very unfortunate that the Arabic named fanatics don’t even know the basics of Islam.
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how does the post in porange relate to the rest of the post?
sorry, didn’t get you
how does the post in “orange” relate to the rest of the post?
You missed the tweeting conversation I guess
Zubair,
You MISSED posting the ENTIRE conversation about your tweets too ,abusing HINDUS & HINDUISM, I guess!
DARE 2 POST THEM ALL??
I challenge you bring it up my so called timeline where I was abusive which is not my precedence.
Hi,
Thanks for tagging me in this post! My followers count increased!
Could you please point out as to when I said I am a Right Wing supporter?? Is it on my Twitter profile? or my blog? or in any of my tweet?
Dont bring religion in between. Me condemning Barkha Dutt[ who coincidently is a Muslim] has nothing to do with ISLAM!
At the same time, I am condemning Vir Sanghvi, Rajdeep Sardesai and many others too for their involvement in 2g scam! Are they ALL, Muslims too???
If I speak against CORRUPTION, does that make me a “Right Wing”?
I am condemning CORRUPTION here,not ISLAM!
Hope you got the DIFFERENCE!
I appreciate and respect your notion against the corruption, so do I. Perhaps you’ve not limned it in your profile that you’re a right wing protagonist. But your tweets addressing me sounded it explicitly more than enough. I apologize to have termed you so if you don’t count yourself to be one. Then, I could appreciate if you would voice against corruption done by any irrespective of his flag/creed.
I didn’t bring religion in, you guys initiated it. Refer to the timeline. I was very very respectful to you and your ideology that’s the teaching of Islam. I’m not sure Barkha Dutt is a Muslim.
If you’re advocating anti-corruption, it does NOT render you Right Muslim as long as no inclination is propounded.
Check your timeline; you’ve been disrespectful several occasions, I am not miffed with it though. It’s unwise to let the emotion take control of oneself and thus you forget to think rationally.
Ok,Here goes my 2nd reply! I still cant believe that I am wasting time in all this crap!
YOU were the 1st one who tweeted me,asked me why I was behind Barkha, I directed u to some links proving her guilt, The next moment itself you called me Right Wing supporter on your tweet and said I should be friends with Akhilesh Mishra as he is a rt wing supporter too”!!
YOU called me RIGHT WING right from your 1st tweet and you are shedding crocodile tears here saying ppl are abusing you on twitter!!
I also remember telling u repeatedly on twitter “You continue with your views, I will continue with mine”!
Did u stop there? NO! You had to come out,abuse,accuse,brand,force,write this irrational and emotional outburst post,prove me wrong and my views are wrong!
Why will you always prove the world that YOU are RIGHT and others are wrong? Why do you always FORCE your views on this world, forcing them to follow it what you follow/feel is right and call them RIGHT WING,if they have different views??
Anyways,
First of all, when you write an open letter addressing it to me and others and call us Right Wing supporters,it implicitly implies that I am a Right wing supporter according to you!
Don’t u know how to write open letters?
Zubair says: “Perhaps you’ve not limned it in your profile that you’re a right wing protagonist”
I say: “Your tweets to me also portrayed that you hated Hindus and Hinduism”. Now shall I call you Taliban,Indian Mujahudeen?
How does it feel??
Zubari says: Then, I could appreciate if you would voice against corruption done by any irrespective of his flag/creed”
I say: “Whose flag and whose creed”? Does Barkha Dutt have any special flag/creed of her own? Apologies for not knowing about it!
Zubair says:”I didn’t bring religion in, you guys initiated it. Refer to the timeline. I was very very respectful to you and your ideology that’s the teaching of Islam.”
I say:”If you check ur timeline yourself, you will see that you started it FIRST by saying: “Hinduism prohibits IDOL worship” and all other crap!
To substantiate it, u gave me link of Dr zakir naik who has written on Hinduism!
Dude,this highlights your stupidity and arrogance! How on earth will Zakir Naik know about Hinduism? If you wanna know the REAL Hinduism, read “BHAGWAD GITA”, “RAMAYAN” “MAHABHARATA” and the vedas!
On similar lines,shall I learn about quran by reading to blog/post written by someone against it? THINK LOGICALLY! NOT EMOTIONALLY!!
Zubair says:”It’s unwise to let the emotion take control of oneself and thus you forget to think rationally”
I say:” Look who is talking!” Your entire post is written out of emotional outburst instead of logic/rationality & you are advising others to be RATIONAL!!
Also,u have mentioned in this post that some Rt Wing supporters are hell bent on annihiliating MUSLIMS!
Dude, seriously,GROW UP or GET A LIFE!! I have many muslims friends since my childhood! If I was hell bent on annihiliating MUSLIMS,or if I was a Right wing activist, I wouldn’t have had a single muslim friend in my life!!
P.S:You publishing only the timeline containing tweets of other ppl but not including your own tweets of abusing others too is similar to Barkha dutt/NDTV posting views of critics on their blog and how they criticized them instead of playing audios of the taped conversations!!
You too had abused us & HINDUISM! Where are those tweets? DARE 2 POST THEM here too??
P.P.S.1: If you are seeking justice,first learn to present BOTH the conversations,instead of just crying foul by posting conversations of others only!
That’s how it works in INDIAN court,no idea how it works in SAUDI court! I am talking about INDIAN court as u claim urself to be “PATRIOTIC INDIAN”!!
P.P.S.2: If you are writing OPEN LETTERS, have an OPEN MIND to accept critic comments! I bet on my life that you ve accepted my comment as I had already taken screenshot of it and propagated it on twitter!
Where are the other comments written by other people? I heard great response on twitter by many people on ur post! I dont see any comment published!
Dont give me lame excuses that they were abuse,as I know, you know that they weren’t!
DARE TO PUBLISH COMMENTS OPPOSING YOUR VIEWS TOO?? THEN TALK! OR WRITE OPEN LETTERS!!
There were not just you, many were there. Many Right Wing Fanatics were there. I could see you your tweets had the same twang too. If I erred in my judgement on your ideology, I apologize.
I’m not miffed with one who has used profanity on me and neither is it my way to retaliate the same way. I challenge you bring in the timeline URL to prove your claim that I used obscene language.
You’re cooking my tweets claiming to be mine. I have not customized the timeline that included the response I received. I’d appreciate if you could tell me a better searching method, I would be more than glad to repost the tweets then.
Anyone on this earth who applies mind can get erudition in any subject, so does Qu’ran and Vedas. FYI, Ramayan and Mahabharata are not Hindu testaments, check it with Hindu scholars (not Dr. Naik)
I standby what I said. If anyone has staked national exchequer irrespective of their profile, he/she should be brought to book in the court of law of India. Information peddling is not new to journalists through various ways which they find it feasible to them. Politicians are known for lobbying and they’re personified in it. Politics is all about lobbying too end of the day. If Barkha or any other journalist has done lobbying or peddling as long as it has not affected the national exchequer, I wouldn’t find any fault in there. No media brand on this planet who’re 100% impartial and have got own inclinations which is very apparent.
If Barkha or any other journalist or anyone else has caused the national exchequer leak, I would be the forerunner to fight them. But, I wouldn’t run behind illusionary and insubstantive arguments. Prove Barkha poked the national interest other than strung along for her TRP. You may choose not to follow her. My policy is to listen to everyone so that you could interpret what the truth it.
I have not trashed or spammed any comments, but have approved all of them except one of them that was too obscene to be carried.
Dear Zubair,
Nice to see your love for the country and it’s irony that muslim has to prove it time to time. You talk about right wing against barkha all I want to say is that she betrayed us by all mean, new tape in which radia saying “barkha ne karwa liya, statement issue” left no doubt. Without credibility media is like a person without soul. We know that barkha or vir are very small fish in this corrupt system but message goes to all. Even now total blackout by all media on new 800 radia tapes, and you said and I beleive that you are patriotic, how can you tolerate this?
Would like to see your reply.
Regards
We The Indian
A true Muslim doesn’t have to prove it time to time, but just reiterating it because people like you are trying the fill the hole with darkness.
Information peddling is nothing new in the media and if Barkha has poked national exchequer, then she should be held accountable too. If she has done political lobbying, it has got nothing to do with common citizen.
Hi Zubair, appreciate and endorse your spirited stand in defence of Indian Muslims and our patriotism, but you sort of weakened it when you clubbed it with justification of lobbyists, and TRP and power hungry journalists.
I standby what I said. If anyone has staked national exchequer irrespective of their profile, he/she should be brought to book in the court of law of India. Information peddling is not new to journalists through various ways which they find it feasible to them. Politicians are known for lobbying and they’re personified in it. Politics is all about lobbying too end of the day. If Barkha or any other journalist has done lobbying or peddling as long as it has not affected the national exchequer, I wouldn’t find any fault in there. No media brand on this planet who’re 100% impartial and have got own inclinations which is very apparent.
If Barkha or any other journalist or anyone else has caused the national exchequer leak, I would be the forerunner to fight them. But, I wouldn’t run behind illusionary and insubstantive arguments. Prove Barkha poked the national interest other than strung along for her TRP. You may choose not to follow her. My policy is to listen to everyone so that you could interpret what the truth it.
About the right wing , and their origin, i have discussed it here in my open question to Sri, Sri, Ravi Shankar here: http://alpha.newsx.com/complaints?page=3
Swathi is spot on! This has nothing to do with religion, and I have discussing and debating this with so many Islamic and Christians friends on Twitter. Many open minded and intelligent people of all faiths have been questioning the role of journalists, and the latest Outlook tapes expose their role in corruption.
I have written a detailed blog on how united Indians are on this, except for a few naive people / people with vested interests: http://bit.ly/h2YsfB
Kindly request you to understand the nuances, before you start attacking everyone who questions your idols. We fight for an honest, ethical, intelligent and pro active media to serve as a strong 4th estate of democracy. We fight for Hindus and Muslims alike, so please do not make this a bigoted religious debate.
Thanks.
Vasu
I’m ready for academic debate anytime. Reach me on my email
I am not interested in wasting any of our precious time on an “academic debate” if it means you and I slang Hindu / Muslim conspiracies at each other. In any case we can debate here, or any other public forum in the open. Pretty much everything I want to say is laid out clearly on my blog, but essentially here is my summary:
1. Every Hindu or Muslim is capable of looking beyond his religious identity at the individual level to reach out to others, and open his mind. I have Muslim friends I value for all my life, and the respect is mutual. The common thread is a liberal, educated, open minded outlook.
2. The big barriers for us to engage in a better way in the society are propaganda by vested interested across the spectrum. This includes Hindu right wing extremists like Mutalik or K Sudarshan, Islamic right wing extremists like Geelani / Shahi Imam, parties that claim to be pro Muslim purely for vote bank politics like Congress, Samajwadi party etc and idiotic and unethical media persons who exploit Islamic sentiment for their TRPs. We are letting these people polarize and pollute our brians and I fight for the right of a Muslim to the honest news, as much as I fight for a Hindus. At the same time, I have as much contempt for a Jihadi Muslim who believes in the Taliban way of life or in the Sharia law, as I have for any Hindu who believes Muslims should go to Pakistan.
3. Every one of the billion plus Indians has a choice whether they listen to these loonies and fill their minds with bigotry, hatred, and medievalism, or open their minds to a modern 21st century world
4. This change for the better cannot happen effectively unless we are not critical of exploitative and corrupt public figures (corrupt includes morally corrupt journalists whose financial wrongdoings are not proved, but ethical wrongdoings are). This culture of hero worship and believing what Barkha or Mutalik or Geelani says as the gospel has to change. Who has been dividing you and me further for hundreds of years: vultures like these people!
5. There are many of us who are stringent in criticism, fair in praise, well read and open minded enough to understand nuances. Categorizing everyone as an internet Hindu or right wing bigot is a media trick to divert attention from their misgivings. You have a choice to call their bluff or fall for their trick. I cannot decide for you. All of us have choice to exercise the choice to either try and understand the criticism or shoo the critic away with brainwashed minds.
Thanks.
Vasu
I have non Muslim friends too who’re among my very few intimate friends and I’m proud of them. I referred to the academic debate to those who wanted to talk about Islam and Hinduism in its ideological perspective.
Islam is against priesthood (as per testaments) and so do I not approve it. One should be stringent believer as long as you’re convinced of the ideology impeccably.
I standby what I said. If anyone has staked national exchequer irrespective of their profile, he/she should be brought to book in the court of law of India. Information peddling is not new to journalists through various ways which they find it feasible to them. Politicians are known for lobbying and they’re personified in it. Politics is all about lobbying too end of the day. If Barkha or any other journalist has done lobbying or peddling as long as it has not affected the national exchequer, I wouldn’t find any fault in there. No media brand on this planet who’re 100% impartial and have got own inclinations which is very apparent.
If Barkha or any other journalist or anyone else has caused the national exchequer leak, I would be the forerunner to fight them. But, I wouldn’t run behind illusionary and insubstantive arguments. Prove Barkha poked the national interest other than strung along for her TRP. You may choose not to follow her. My policy is to listen to everyone so that you could interpret what the truth it.
Hey, i said right wing Hindu maggots, what’s so unacceptable about the word “maggot”? It’s a biological entity, why censor it? And an “academic debate”? With these people who have been conditioned through generations to hate Muslims since well before the nation was born? You are dreaming, friend! Look for my exact location on Twitter, all ye Jan Sanghi and Jihadi fanatics, and do your worst!
Maggots might offend somebody which shouldn’t be a Muslim’s ‘Quid Pro Quo’
Qur’an says: “Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.” (Surat An-Nahl 16:125)
Dude, you are mixing up too many things and letting your ideology cloud your judgment. Ironically it is these Barkhas of the world who lead to seemingly capable individuals like you to turn blind:
1. On Barkha Dutt, you probably haven’t the latest “Barkha ne karwa le” outlook tapes. Also, just because you like Barkha for some reason you are willing to support her for things not proven yet. I do not support Modi, but just for argument’s sake would you support Modi as no tangible evidence of wrong doing has been proven so far? People with such clout are more than capable of burying evidence. Or, how does one explain the media black out, or how does one explain so many wrong doings of Barkha including Chaitanya Kunte. You probably are happy living in an oppressive regime like Saudi where you are told not to criticize those in power, but I want to live in an Indian where there is no suppression on my free speech.
2. On why you have brought religion into this debate and polluted you still don’t have a credible answer.
3. A lot of us have focused extensively on the role of other beyond Barkha, beyond journalism, and to the stench in the system. It is people like you who like to blindly defend Barkha for no logical reason, that keep dragging us back. Trust me, no inteligent person is happy with the pitched nature of this debate, but if you keep attacking the critic instead of understanding the criticism, this is what you will get. Ultimately most indivioduals need the help of a good media to take on bigger politcal corrpuption issues. But this biased and shady media, which has led to the bigotry and lack of intelligence amongst extremists of all hues in my country, will only add to the rot.
Thanks.
Vasu
Islam teaches one to tell the truth to the King that’s termed one of the best refinement. I’m against the media blackout and I have written article on it many. Here’s a couple of them: http://oasiskerala.wordpress.com/?s=autopsy
I didn’t pull religion in here, it’s because I was raked at on my religious identity which actually had nothing to do with the subject the argument started at all.
It’s not about Barkha or Vir, it’s about the principles. Read my statement fully. Is it proven anywhere she has crept into tax payer’s money? I’d be the forerunner to foray her then.
I have explained all I can here, on my blogs. Your understanding of the country is so naive. You think Barkha is going to leave behind proof of her wrong doing after 1 month? While I can understand some people could potentially target your identity, and I would strongly condemn that, your constant quoting of Islamic scriptures for every answer and a mentality of feeling victimized doesn’t help either. If all Hindus started quoting from the Gita or felt victimized for every transaction, there is no way we can ever achieve consensus as a society. Education, open mindedness, liberal values, globalization and awareness of other cultures, freedom of speech, and the ability to differentiate between truth and propaganda are values what we need. I will leave you here to introspect and hopefully with time be more open minded. In fact I read some of your gender bashing on these blogs, and realized now you have a long way to go before you can appreciate what any of us are saying. Ironically you are willing to believe that feminism, and 9/11 are western propagandas, but have a different yardstick to judge Indian propagandas people like me fight against. Selective, colored, brainwashed view of the world is the most decent way I can describe your judgement. I do detect a semblance of having your heart in the right place, so there is hope. Wish you good luck, and may insha allah open your eyes.
Thanks,
Vasu
I’m never against any Hindu/Christian/or any other human being on this earth. I am one who take the nearby Harijan Colony guys (lower clan – this is not my classfication) on my vehicle and we invite them to dine at our home.
The gender based critics were evolved of an unfortunate law abuse incurred on my family and I because of the poorly drafted law and converged with corruption.
i really appreciate your standpoint which I propound too. http://facebook.com/DrMadavoor We advocate interreligous ties which is very vital in the contemporary scenario.
I was forced to explain the Islamic perspective only when my identity/belief was dragged into
Oh for bog’s sake! It also says “guard your faith”. By that i understand not exposing it’s tenets in public to the ridicule of cynics and other haters. Would one bare one’s mother or sister in public? So also, one should not parade one’s core beliefs on a public forum. I hate those bigoted Mullahs screaming their taqreers from the top of rooftops, oblivious of the reactions of “others”. In reality, there is no “other”, it is a construct of society and politics.
I didn’t pull religion in here, it’s because I was raked at on my religious identity which actually had nothing to do with the subject the argument started at all.
That is why i reiterate, brother, “Guard your Faith”, people will always try to pull you down, snigger at you, laugh at the illogical and scientifically unproven aspects of it, are you going to engage each and every frivolous b’turd in a futile debate?
I certainly do. Nonetheless, one should argue in the legitimate without retaliating their profanity at the same band, but descent way. At at least one in the crowd may get ready to study than gulping the inclined and customized teachings.
Good luck with that my naive and innocent bro, i get by well enough with “Laqum dinukum waliyae deen”, with Muslims as well as with others.
That was revealed in a different context at all. It was when Rasul(PBUH) was asked to salute their idols without having a belief in it. Then, this verse was revealed.
I do get well along with others and I’m for communal accord in every sense. I am one who take the nearby Harijan Colony guys (lower clan – this is not my classfication) on my vehicle and we invite them to dine at our home.
Now you find the need to talk of context..really? And what about “To you your religion and to me mine” do you find that is not universally apt or context-independent?
It’s not context independent. It’s one’s duty to ensure that message reaches out to others. It’s just its translation and I know it. My maternal grand father was the one who actually translated Qur’an into Malayalam for the first time. May Allah get all of us together in Jannath having forgiven our sins
My respects to your grandfather, but the word that reaches out will always be an interpretation, and one on every individual’s part, i entreat you bro, please remember that. The Mother of the Book will only be revealed post the day of Judgment. I cannot and will not stay content in that an Arabic compilation and interpretation of the Prophet’s revelations and epiphanies relevant in the context of those medieval times is not open to reexamination by us today who are supposed to be “Ashraful Maqhlukaat”. Are we sheep, do we not trust that (this is where i take care, i do not take His name in vain) He will not examine our motives and exonerate our quest for truth on the basis of the senses that he has provided us?
Socially, there is no doubt that there is a bias against Muslims ingrained amongst the intelligentsia of today, and that it’s roots go far deeper than the perceived superfluities of “Islamic terrorism”, and i will always be at one in your attempt to counter that, but debate with these bigots on the basis of religion is not the way to go, nor is rising to their baiting on quotations about the scriptures, and the life of the Prophet. We are only inviting self-hurt in that process.
Let me start by saying that I am an atheist, it seems very important here it feels strange that I need to declare my religious beliefs in a discussion about corruption and its also a little sad that I need to do this. In true harry potter style I solemnly swear that I vehemently hate all religions hinduism, islam, christianity, buddhism et cetera the earth has existed 4.54 billion years without a need for god so i don’t place much value in the 2000 year belief system. One more thing about me despite all the corruptions and scams that congress is a part of I have voted and will continue to vote for congress just for one reason it seems to keep the right wing activists at bay, I don’t either BJP or Indian muslim league or any other party with right wing agenda to come to power because that to me is a much larger concern than corruption.
Now the reason behind the big explanation given above is to make one thing clear what Burkha Dutt did was wrong, she is an immoral greedy person and you cannot hide behind religion to deny this.
You speak about right wing activism not realizing that you are one yourself only that you are green where as others are saffron. You condemn others of their beliefs while you yourself are doing so just because you believe in a different religion than the one others believe doesn’t make you right.
I was once a big fan of Barkha and was mightily impresses with her one time and I never for one moment realized that she was a muslim till I read your blog I never cared about her religion or her beliefs but it seems that you were aware of it and that it mattered to you speaks volumes. You my friend are a right wingist even though I know you wouldn’t agree(I would say you need a lot of soul searching to do but it would seem arrogant so I am not saying so).
Finally your moral compass also points in the wrong direction, you readily want to admit that there was media manipulation and defend it as if its not an issue and you give the example of nakeeran gopal. Nakeeran gopal even when he met with veerapan never once portrayed that veerapan is a good person. What he was doing was meeting up with a bandit he didn’t manipulate news he risked his career collecting news.
Barkha and NDTV(though at this point it seems that every one including rajdeep sardesi’s ibnlive) manipulates news to publish propaganda and greedy corporate agenda this is most heinous crime a news media outlet can be involved in. People depend on news to make up their mind in so many issues if they are corrupt there is no hope for humanity.
I am not sure if you know about Anna(you seem to know about nakeeran gopal so i assume you might know Anna too) he once said “Democracy is a dark and dangerous tunnel, news papers are the light which guides people through it”. The world has changed and so has news media but if the light that guides us starts playing tricks all hope is lost.
Hi Zubair,
This is what you say: “They are propounding Barkha’s information peddling a bigger national issue than the gigantic loss to the national exchequer imposed by unscrupulous political (meaning contradicts) leaders who abused their seats.”
The problem is, Ms Barkha Dutt knew that corporate lobbyists are trying to re induct A Raja into the cabinet at the behest of a business. This should have been the breaking news that would have exposed the neta-corporate nexus beyond what we thought we knew. By hiding this till the tapes revealed them, she has willfully concealed a very important piece of this puzzle. It’s a shame you are you and some others still want to defend her.
I agree that no media house is impartial but the viewers have the right to know which way they swing. Take a look at Pioneer in India and Fox News in the US. Both openly declare their pro-right stands. On the contrary, IBN, NDTV claim they are impartial which they clearly aren’t. If Barkha had declared that she was pro-Congress, this issue would not have blown up to this scale.
I understand you quoted somewhere that idol worship is forbidden in Hinduism. First, that is incorrect but let’s assume its true. If true, in what context did you say that and what in your opinion should hindus do as the next logical step once its established that idol worship is indeed prohibited in Hinduism.
Look forward to your reply.
~Trishul
You cannot just say it’s true or untrue with no basis. Refer and then rake. Pioneer is neither impartial.
Dear Indians,
We must resist the trap of drawing our identity to anything other than our country. We are Indians first, and it must always be that way if we are to be aligned with the vision of this country. Fundamentally we are secular and free. Often these ideas conflict, and the fringes begin to seek identification with “baser” labels like state, religion, ethnicity. Let us treat them as fringes and not confuse them for mainstream opinion.
In Peace and Love…
Ash
Still there are some people in the world who can see everything through the eyes of Religion. They never understand so called Kafir…
If you want to glorify Barkha Dutt, Madhani, Gilani etc..only because they belongs to the community..do it..At the same time don’t thing that all others are fools.. Ostrich view may be good for your community…but not acceptable in a civilized society like INDIA.
From your first sentence itself expresses your Identity criss… Why don’t you choose other options like Oil Rich Saudi Arabia or Drug rich Pakistan ???
All the best…
This shows just your intolerance instead of retrospection. Shameful!!!
Burkha is not from Muslim community ROFLO
Oh I forgot to mention. I am also for communal accord in every sense. I have many Shia friends (Rafida/Mushriks/Dhaal etc. – not my idea of Shia). We have a great time together. Hence, I think people should stop playing holier than thou and keep religion inside their houses. Outside the house, everyone should be equal/secular, in the real sense, not by the definition propagated by communal political parties.
One way of spreading communal hatred is by peddling rumours that 26/11 was a RSS conspiracy. Next time you meet the IG who wrote that piece of fiction, please show him these links:
http://www.hindu.com/2008/09/14/stories/2008091458990800.htm
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/IM-had-plans-to-kill-Karkare-reveals-email/articleshow/7084650.cms
The whole world heard these men talk to their masters across the border. The whole saw them wreak havoc and kill people mercilessly including the Rabbii and his wife. After all this, if someone publishes books to whip up emotions, and he finds support from one side, the other side has a right to be disappointed. Therefore, it is important for educated you like yourself to not indulge in spreading such fake conspiracy theories which can only divide the country.
Regards,
Trishul
It’s not a fiction. It’s a research material and you should look at it with a different perspective at all. Why not the alleged mattered brought to investigation?
How would the terrorists at CST spoke/raked in Marathi if they were from Pak? What’s coming out of late of Malegaon etc? You would just understate it as conspiracy too.
Hi Ash, if we are to forsake ethnic and religious identity, we will have to go a step further and think that we are all human beings first. Thinking of being just an Indian first has caused me to alienate myself from the rest of the world and lash out disproportionately and in a racist manner whenever incidents like curry bashing in Oz, strip searches of our diplomats, and now the latest, radio tags on Indian students, took place. In the last case it turns out that the these supposedly “wronged” students were the actual slimy toads who chose to deceive their own peers from their country, for the lure of a f**ng green card. We should be castigating our politicians and leaders who bred this culture of greed and deceit in the first place..of course, ankle bracelets and radio tags are a human rights violation, but that’s a global issue and not merely a national one.
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